I just did the latest kernel upgrade on my xubuntu 8.10 system (to
kernel (to 2.6.27-14) and now the X GUI doesn't start up.
I still have virtual consoles working (fortunately, I'm mailing from
one) so most of the system is working, all that's missing is the GUI.
On reboot I get the xubuntu splash screen with the moving bar but
that's my lot, when it disappears I get no login screen or anything
more at all.
There don't seem to be any errors in /var/Xoef.0.log.
Does anyone have any idea what the problem might be? How can I set
about diagnosing the problem?
Re: xubuntu-users - How to diagnose loss of X/GUI after latest kernel upgrade in 8.10? by Steve Dodier on
2009-07-02T17:41:29+00:00
Re: How to diagnose loss of X/GUI after latest kernel upgrade in 8.10? by Verde Denim on
2009-07-02T17:46:59+00:00
> kernel (to 2.6.27-14) and now the X GUI doesn't start up.
>
> I still have virtual consoles working (fortunately, I'm mailing from
> one) so most of the system is working, all that's missing is the GUI.
>
> On reboot I get the xubuntu splash screen with the moving bar but
> that's my lot, when it disappears I get no login screen or anything
> more at all.
>
> There don't seem to be any errors in /var/Xoef.0.log.
>
> Does anyone have any idea what the problem might be? How can I set
> about diagnosing the problem?
>
> Chris
If it's anything like my server updates this morning, my nvidia drivers for
my XFX were wiped.
I can't start x either, due to 'low graphics mode' and the most god-awful
mess on the screen (its unusable), so I'm relegated to terminal mode only at
the moment.
What is the graphics card you've got...
Check dmesg (there's probably a seg fault there related to X server).
I'm a bit puzzled as to how to fix mine as well, but I'm working on it (I
also have sent a message to the group this morning on these woes).
Even if I reboot into the last kernel I still have to manually tweak the
graphics settings to get a really low-res desktop, but my primary display
(Dell 1503FP digital) doesn't work at all.
Luckily my 42" plasma tv is plugged into the secondary dvi port and that's
what comes up... it's a challenge.
Regards,
Jack
>
>
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I just did the latest kernel upgrade on my xubuntu 8.10 system (to<br>
kernel (to 2.6.27-14) and now the X GUI doesn't start up.<br>
<br>
I still have virtual consoles working (fortunately, I'm mailing from<br=
>
one) so most of the system is working, all that's missing is the GUI.<b=
r>
<br>
On reboot I get the xubuntu splash screen with the moving bar but<br>
that's my lot, when it disappears I get no login screen or anything<br>
more at all.<br>
<br>
There don't seem to be any errors in /var/Xoef.0.log.<br>
<br>
Does anyone have any idea what the problem might be? =A0How can I set<br>
about diagnosing the problem?<br>
<br>
What is the graphics card you've got...<br>Check dmesg (there's pro=
bably a seg fault there related to X server).<br>I'm a bit puzzled as t=
o how to fix mine as well, but I'm working on it (I also have sent a me=
ssage to the group this morning on these woes).<br>
Even if I reboot into the last kernel I still have to manually tweak the gr=
aphics settings to get a really low-res desktop, but my primary display (De=
ll 1503FP digital) doesn't work at all.<br>Luckily my 42" plasma t=
v is plugged into the secondary dvi port and that's what comes up... it=
's a challenge.<br>
<br>Regards,<br>Jack <br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail-quote" style=3D"b=
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g-left: 1ex;"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
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Re: xubuntu-users - How to diagnose loss of X/GUI after latest kernel upgrade in 8.10? by Chris G on
2009-07-02T19:04:45+00:00
On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 07:41:05PM +0200, Steve Dodier wrote:
> Please provide us ~/.xsession-errors, there should be clues there. It is
> very likely a missing driver problem, though, especially if you used to
> have a proprietary driver. Type lspci | grep VGA to get your GPU's name.
There's no .xsession-errors, it hasn't got that far. Also, as I
reported, there don't seem to be any problems in /var/Xorg.0.log.
It's an Intel chipset motherboard.
Intel Corporation 4 Series chipset
Re: xubuntu-users - How to diagnose loss of X/GUI after latest kernel upgrade in 8.10? by Chris G on
2009-07-02T19:23:01+00:00
On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 08:04:13PM +0100, Chris G wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 07:41:05PM +0200, Steve Dodier wrote:
> > Please provide us ~/.xsession-errors, there should be clues there. It is
> > very likely a missing driver problem, though, especially if you used to
> > have a proprietary driver. Type lspci | grep VGA to get your GPU's name.
>
> There's no .xsession-errors, it hasn't got that far. Also, as I
> reported, there don't seem to be any problems in /var/Xorg.0.log.
>
> It's an Intel chipset motherboard.
>
> Intel Corporation 4 Series chipset
>
The only odd thing I can see in /var/Xorg.0.log is:-
(II) intel(0): Setting screen physical size to 304 x 228
I suspect that there's no way my monitor is going to manage that resolution!
Re: How to diagnose loss of X/GUI after latest kernel upgrade in 8.10? by Robert Spanjaard on
2009-07-02T19:32:18+00:00
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:19:48 +0100, Chris G wrote:
>> There's no .xsession-errors, it hasn't got that far. Also, as I
>> reported, there don't seem to be any problems in /var/Xorg.0.log.
>>
>> It's an Intel chipset motherboard.
>>
>> Intel Corporation 4 Series chipset
>>
> The only odd thing I can see in /var/Xorg.0.log is:-
>
> (II) intel(0): Setting screen physical size to 304 x 228
>
> I suspect that there's no way my monitor is going to manage that
> resolution!
"Physical size" is the size of your screen in milimeters. Your system uses
that data, combined with the width and height in pixels, to calculate the
PPI of your screen. That information, in turn, is used for things like
setting the right font sizes.
Re: xubuntu-users - How to diagnose loss of X/GUI after latest kernel upgrade in 8.10? by Chris G on
2009-07-02T19:40:59+00:00
On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 07:27:47PM +0000, Robert Spanjaard wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:19:48 +0100, Chris G wrote:
>
> >> There's no .xsession-errors, it hasn't got that far. Also, as I
> >> reported, there don't seem to be any problems in /var/Xorg.0.log.
> >>
> >> It's an Intel chipset motherboard.
> >>
> >> Intel Corporation 4 Series chipset
> >>
> > The only odd thing I can see in /var/Xorg.0.log is:-
> >
> > (II) intel(0): Setting screen physical size to 304 x 228
> >
> > I suspect that there's no way my monitor is going to manage that
> > resolution!
>
> "Physical size" is the size of your screen in milimeters. Your system uses
> that data, combined with the width and height in pixels, to calculate the
> PPI of your screen. That information, in turn, is used for things like
> setting the right font sizes.
>
Oh, OK, so that's not the issue then.
I just can't find any error messages or processes failing to start,
everything looks perfect but I don't have a login/GUI/X.
Re: xubuntu-users - How to diagnose loss of X/GUI after latest kernel upgrade in 8.10? by Verde Denim on
2009-07-02T19:47:35+00:00
> > On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:19:48 +0100, Chris G wrote:
> >
> > >> There's no .xsession-errors, it hasn't got that far. Also, as I
> > >> reported, there don't seem to be any problems in /var/Xorg.0.log.
> > >>
> > >> It's an Intel chipset motherboard.
> > >>
> > >> Intel Corporation 4 Series chipset
> > >>
> > > The only odd thing I can see in /var/Xorg.0.log is:-
> > >
> > > (II) intel(0): Setting screen physical size to 304 x 228
> > >
> > > I suspect that there's no way my monitor is going to manage that
> > > resolution!
> >
> > "Physical size" is the size of your screen in milimeters. Your system
> uses
> > that data, combined with the width and height in pixels, to calculate the
> > PPI of your screen. That information, in turn, is used for things like
> > setting the right font sizes.
> >
> Oh, OK, so that's not the issue then.
>
> I just can't find any error messages or processes failing to start,
> everything looks perfect but I don't have a login/GUI/X.
>
Have you tried starting gdm from the terminal as root:
# gdm &
Jack
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<div class=3D"im">On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 07:27:47PM +0000, Robert Spanjaar=
d wrote:<br>
> On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:19:48 +0100, Chris G wrote:<br>
><br>
> >> There's no .xsession-errors, it hasn't got that far. =
=A0Also, as I<br>
> >> reported, there don't seem to be any problems in /var/Xor=
g.0.log.<br>
> >><br>
> >> It's an Intel chipset motherboard.<br>
> >><br>
> >> =A0 =A0 Intel Corporation 4 Series chipset<br>
> >><br>
> > The only odd thing I can see in /var/Xorg.0.log is:-<br>
> ><br>
> > =A0 =A0 (II) intel(0): Setting screen physical size to 304 x 228<=
br>
> ><br>
> > I suspect that there's no way my monitor is going to manage t=
hat<br>
> > resolution!<br>
><br>
> "Physical size" is the size of your screen in milimeters. Yo=
ur system uses<br>
> that data, combined with the width and height in pixels, to calculate =
the<br>
> PPI of your screen. That information, in turn, is used for things like=
<br>
> setting the right font sizes.<br>
><br>
</div>Oh, OK, so that's not the issue then.<br>
<br>
I just can't find any error messages or processes failing to start,<br>
everything looks perfect but I don't have a login/GUI/X.<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"></font></blockquote><div>Have you tried starting gd=
m from the terminal as root:<br># gdm &<br><br>Jack </div></div><br>
Re: xubuntu-users - How to diagnose loss of X/GUI after latest kernel upgrade in 8.10? by Steve Dodier on
2009-07-02T19:48:00+00:00
Re: xubuntu-users - How to diagnose loss of X/GUI after latest kernel upgrade in 8.10? by Chris G on
2009-07-02T20:00:58+00:00
On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 03:44:30PM -0400, Verde Denim wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Chris G <[1]cl@isbd.net> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 07:27:47PM +0000, Robert Spanjaard wrote:
> > On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:19:48 +0100, Chris G wrote:
> >
> > >> There's no .xsession-errors, it hasn't got that far. Also, as I
> > >> reported, there don't seem to be any problems in /var/Xorg.0.log.
> > >>
> > >> It's an Intel chipset motherboard.
> > >>
> > >> Intel Corporation 4 Series chipset
> > >>
> > > The only odd thing I can see in /var/Xorg.0.log is:-
> > >
> > > (II) intel(0): Setting screen physical size to 304 x 228
> > >
> > > I suspect that there's no way my monitor is going to manage that
> > > resolution!
> >
> > "Physical size" is the size of your screen in milimeters. Your system
> uses
> > that data, combined with the width and height in pixels, to calculate
> the
> > PPI of your screen. That information, in turn, is used for things like
> > setting the right font sizes.
> >
> Oh, OK, so that's not the issue then.
>
> I just can't find any error messages or processes failing to start,
> everything looks perfect but I don't have a login/GUI/X.
>
> Have you tried starting gdm from the terminal as root:
> # gdm &
>
gdm is running:-
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Re: xubuntu-users - How to diagnose loss of X/GUI after latest kernel upgrade in 8.10? by Chris G on
2009-07-02T20:02:33+00:00
On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 09:45:30PM +0200, Steve Dodier wrote:
> Does "X" in root die silently ? What about "startx" and "/etc/init.d/gdm
> start" ? Any message that could help a little ?
Both gdm and X are running, it's just (!) that they produce no display.
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Re: xubuntu-users - How to diagnose loss of X/GUI after latest kernel upgrade in 8.10? by Steve Dodier on
2009-07-02T20:08:24+00:00
you, which is boring.
Re: xubuntu-users - How to diagnose loss of X/GUI after latest kernel upgrade in 8.10? by Nils Kassube on
2009-07-02T20:09:52+00:00
Chris G wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 07:41:05PM +0200, Steve Dodier wrote:
> > Please provide us ~/.xsession-errors, there should be clues
> > there. It is very likely a missing driver problem, though,
> > especially if you used to have a proprietary driver. Type lspci |
> > grep VGA to get your GPU's name.
>
> There's no .xsession-errors, it hasn't got that far. Also, as I
> reported, there don't seem to be any problems in /var/Xorg.0.log.
Did you check the time stamp of /var/log/Xorg.0.log? Maybe it is from
the last successful start and now it doesn't even get far enough to
write a log file.
Nils
Re: xubuntu-users - How to diagnose loss of X/GUI after latest kernel upgrade in 8.10? by Chris G on
2009-07-02T20:22:32+00:00
On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 10:05:31PM +0200, Nils Kassube wrote:
> Chris G wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 07:41:05PM +0200, Steve Dodier wrote:
> > > Please provide us ~/.xsession-errors, there should be clues
> > > there. It is very likely a missing driver problem, though,
> > > especially if you used to have a proprietary driver. Type lspci |
> > > grep VGA to get your GPU's name.
> >
> > There's no .xsession-errors, it hasn't got that far. Also, as I
> > reported, there don't seem to be any problems in /var/Xorg.0.log.
>
> Did you check the time stamp of /var/log/Xorg.0.log? Maybe it is from
> the last successful start and now it doesn't even get far enough to
> write a log file.
>
Yes, it's definitely a new /var/Xorg.0.log file, time stamp just a few
minutes old (well, it was when I looked just after rebooting). Both
gdm and X are running, just no display.
Re: xubuntu-users - How to diagnose loss of X/GUI after latest kernel upgrade in 8.10? by Chris G on
2009-07-02T20:27:45+00:00
On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 10:08:05PM +0200, Steve Dodier wrote:
> What if you kill and relaunch them ? Any useful information ?
It appears to work perfectly! E.g. after killing gdm:-
root@chris:/var/log# gdm &
[1] 5653
root@chris:/var/log# jobs
[1]+ Done gdm
root@chris:/var/log# ps -ef | grep gdm
root 5654 1 0 21:19 ? 00:00:00 gdm
root 5655 5654 0 21:19 ? 00:00:00 gdm
root 5659 5655 1 21:19 tty7 00:00:00 /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7
gdm 5669 5655 1 21:19 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/gdm/gdmgreeter
root 5671 5643 0 21:19 pts/0 00:00:00 grep gdm
That looks perfectly normal to me, no errors on terminal, and nothing
wrong in the (new) /var/log/Xorg.0.log either.
One thing I've noticed in Xorg.0.log:-
(II) intel(0): Output VGA disconnected
(II) intel(0): Output HDMI-1 disconnected
(II) intel(0): Output HDMI-2 connected
My motherboard has a single DVI-D socket, is the output being sent to the
right place?
> try to avoid cross-posting in two MLs, it requires approval from the ML
> moderators each time any of us who isn't registered in both want to answer
> you, which is boring.
Sorry, yes, hopefully this message is just to xubuntu.
Re: xubuntu-users - How to diagnose loss of X/GUI after latest kernel upgrade in 8.10? by David Curtis on
2009-07-02T20:33:48+00:00
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 17:24:22 +0100
Chris G <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
> I just did the latest kernel upgrade on my xubuntu 8.10 system (to
> kernel (to 2.6.27-14) and now the X GUI doesn't start up.
>
> I still have virtual consoles working (fortunately, I'm mailing from
> one) so most of the system is working, all that's missing is the GUI.
>
> On reboot I get the xubuntu splash screen with the moving bar but
> that's my lot, when it disappears I get no login screen or anything
> more at all.
>
> There don't seem to be any errors in /var/Xoef.0.log.
>
> Does anyone have any idea what the problem might be? How can I set
> about diagnosing the problem?
From the USN (Ubuntu Security Notice) for this security upgrade:
"ATTENTION: Due to an unavoidable ABI change for Ubuntu 8.04 and 8.10,
the kernel updates have been given a new version number, which requires
you to recompile and reinstall all third party kernel modules you
might have installed. If you use linux-restricted-modules, you have to
update that package as well to get modules which work with the new
kernel version. Unless you manually uninstalled the standard kernel
metapackages (e.g. linux-generic, linux-server, linux-powerpc), a
standard system upgrade will automatically perform this as well."
I would guess that you need to upgrade the module that runs your video
card, a 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' should work,
if you've compiled the module by hand you will have to do that over
again with the new kernel packages.
Re: xubuntu-users - How to diagnose loss of X/GUI after latest kernel upgrade in 8.10? by Chris G on
2009-07-02T21:12:20+00:00
On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 09:26:50PM +0100, Chris G wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 10:08:05PM +0200, Steve Dodier wrote:
> > What if you kill and relaunch them ? Any useful information ?
>
> It appears to work perfectly! E.g. after killing gdm:-
>
> root@chris:/var/log# gdm &
> [1] 5653
> root@chris:/var/log# jobs
> [1]+ Done gdm
> root@chris:/var/log# ps -ef | grep gdm
> root 5654 1 0 21:19 ? 00:00:00 gdm
> root 5655 5654 0 21:19 ? 00:00:00 gdm
> root 5659 5655 1 21:19 tty7 00:00:00 /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7
> gdm 5669 5655 1 21:19 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/gdm/gdmgreeter
> root 5671 5643 0 21:19 pts/0 00:00:00 grep gdm
>
> That looks perfectly normal to me, no errors on terminal, and nothing
> wrong in the (new) /var/log/Xorg.0.log either.
>
> One thing I've noticed in Xorg.0.log:-
>
> (II) intel(0): Output VGA disconnected
> (II) intel(0): Output HDMI-1 disconnected
> (II) intel(0): Output HDMI-2 connected
>
> My motherboard has a single DVI-D socket, is the output being sent to the
> right place?
>
.... some progress!
If I disconnect the DVI-D lead to my monitor and use an analogue VGA
connection instead I get a working system! However the resolution
isn't as high as I would like and the display quality isn't as good as
with the DVI-D connection (when it worked).
So, it is *something* to do with the DVI-D recognition and configuration.
Any ideas anyone?