Re: KDE4 Multiple Desktops

On Tuesday 16 June 2009 03:49:00 am tpk wrote:
> --- On Tue, 16/6/09, Alan Dacey Sr. wrote:
> > I've turned Compiz off, for now I just want a flat, plain desktop while I
> > figure out where everything is.
>
> I used Compiz with KDE 3.5 but I found everything I use everyday in Kwin.
> Open System Settings, go into Desktop and play with things under the 'All
> Effects' tab. The only thing that took me more than a few times of use to
> get used to is spinning the desktop cube. Ctrl-Alt-Right/Left Arrow cannot
> be bound to the right/left spin. But you can bind one of those and then
> use the right/left arrow to spin it (at least in KDE 4.2.4). You can also
> set the activate of the cube spin to a desktop edge and just use the mouse
> to do it.
>
> You actually can bind Ctrl+Alt+Left/Right to the desktop switch, but you
> need to configure it in the global KDE shortcuts: System settings->Keyboard
> Shortcuts->"switch one desktop to the right" or something similar. It will
> activate the desktop cube if it is set as the default effect for switching
> desktops.
>
> Having different wallpapers would surely be a useful feature, in fact it
> was one of the reasons why I chose KDE over Gnome some years back...
>
> -Tom
See, I can't figure out how you could use the spinning cube without different
desktop wallpapers. When I spin the cube around I can't tell them apart.
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> See, I can't figure out how you could use the spinning cube without different
> desktop wallpapers. When I spin the cube around I can't tell them apart.
The desktop page tells you which window you are in. Its not that hard
IMHO ...
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Chris Jones wrote:
>> See, I can't figure out how you could use the spinning cube without different
>> desktop wallpapers. When I spin the cube around I can't tell them apart.
>
> The desktop page tells you which window you are in. Its not that hard
> IMHO ...
desktop pageR ....
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I forget who posted, sorry, but I was asked to try to connect to the Internet
and kmail using the live CD, since my computer would not connect from the
installed Jaunty application. If this gets through, I am connected using
Jaunty Live CD. Thanks!
Steven
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On Tuesday 16 Jun 2009 18:46:28 Steven Vollom wrote:
> I forget who posted, sorry, but I was asked to try to connect to the Internet
> and kmail using the live CD, since my computer would not connect from the
> installed Jaunty application. If this gets through, I am connected using
> Jaunty Live CD. Thanks!
>
> Steven
>
>
It wasn't me who asked but that's Great!
I've had an idea. Try something else. Connect your broken computer to your modem and boot it from the hard disc (not the live CD).
Make sure KMail is not running.
Find the following files and *move* them somewhere (for example into /home/steven):
/home/steven/.kde/share/config/kmailrc
/home/steven/.kde/share/config/kmailcvtrc
/home/steven/.kde/share/config/kmail.eventsrc
(If you're using Dolphin you will have to enable View->Show Hidden Files from the menu to find the .kmail folder)
If you can't find all 3, don't worry, just make sure to move the ones that do exist.
Also find the following directory and *move* that as well (DON'T delete it, you will need it later):
/home/steven/share/apps/kmail
Now start KMail again. You will have to reconfigure it but I think you're getting quite good at that :) You will notice all your old email has also gone, but that's why you moved the folder and didn't delete it.
Try sending another email and see if it works. I'm working on the guess that your kmail configuration is corrupt. This will remove it and allow you to recreate it. If it sorts out the problem then we'll work on getting your saved email back. If it doesn't work, put the files and the folder back where they started from and we'll have another think.
Mark.
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On Tuesday 16 Jun 2009 19:44:12 Mark Greenwood wrote:
> On Tuesday 16 Jun 2009 18:46:28 Steven Vollom wrote:
> > I forget who posted, sorry, but I was asked to try to connect to the Internet
> > and kmail using the live CD, since my computer would not connect from the
> > installed Jaunty application. If this gets through, I am connected using
> > Jaunty Live CD. Thanks!
> >
> > Steven
> >
> >
> It wasn't me who asked but that's Great!
>
> I've had an idea. Try something else. Connect your broken computer to your modem and boot it from the hard disc (not the live CD).
>
> Make sure KMail is not running.
>
> Find the following files and *move* them somewhere (for example into /home/steven):
> /home/steven/.kde/share/config/kmailrc
> /home/steven/.kde/share/config/kmailcvtrc
> /home/steven/.kde/share/config/kmail.eventsrc
> (If you're using Dolphin you will have to enable View->Show Hidden Files from the menu to find the .kmail folder)
> If you can't find all 3, don't worry, just make sure to move the ones that do exist.
>
> Also find the following directory and *move* that as well (DON'T delete it, you will need it later):
> /home/steven/share/apps/kmail
>
> Now start KMail again. You will have to reconfigure it but I think you're getting quite good at that :) You will notice all your old email has also gone, but that's why you moved the folder and didn't delete it.
>
> Try sending another email and see if it works. I'm working on the guess that your kmail configuration is corrupt. This will remove it and allow you to recreate it. If it sorts out the problem then we'll work on getting your saved email back. If it doesn't work, put the files and the folder back where they started from and we'll have another think.
>
> Mark.
>
>
... but try Thomas Olsen's suggestion first, that looks more likely.
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On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:46 AM, Steven
Vollom wrote:
> I forget who posted, sorry, but I was asked to try to connect to the Inte=
rnet
> and kmail using the live CD, since my computer would not connect from the
> installed Jaunty application. =A0If this gets through, I am connected usi=
ng
> Jaunty Live CD. =A0Thanks!
That was me.
I just want to be sure the problem is with the software, not hardware.
The next step is to open terminal and run below command:
ifconfig
Give me the output when you run the live cd and when you run from harddiks.
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On Tuesday 16 June 2009 07:51:57 pm David Kuntadi wrote: > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:46 AM, Steven > > Vollom wrote: > > I forget who posted, sorry, but I was asked to try to connect to the > > Internet and kmail using the live CD, since my computer would not connect > > from the installed Jaunty application. If this gets through, I am > > connected using Jaunty Live CD. Thanks! > > That was me. > I just want to be sure the problem is with the software, not hardware. > The next step is to open terminal and run below command: > > ifconfig > > Give me the output when you run the live cd and when you run from harddiks. > > DK eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0d:88:1c:a7:71 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:40:05:39:47:8d UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0..0 B) interrupt:18 Base address:0xd400 eth2 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:08:74:d4:1f:3a inet6 addr: fe80::208:74ff:fed4:1f3a:/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:30 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:22 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 Rxbytes:5516 (5.5 KB) TX bytes:5340 (5.3 KB) lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric: RX packets:24 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:24 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:1144 (1.1 KB) TX bytes:1144 (1.1 KB) Thanks! Steven

When you run live cd, it is connected through eth2.
Boot from harddisk, open ternimal and issue:
gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
add below lines:
auto eth2
iface eth0 inet dhcp
Save and close the text editor, and run in terminal:
sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
After that, check again ifconfig, see whether eth2 now already up. If
it is up, you should be able to connect internet.
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On Tuesday 16 June 2009 02:57:12 pm Mark Greenwood wrote:
> On Tuesday 16 Jun 2009 19:44:12 Mark Greenwood wrote:
> > On Tuesday 16 Jun 2009 18:46:28 Steven Vollom wrote:
> > > I forget who posted, sorry, but I was asked to try to connect to the
> > > Internet and kmail using the live CD, since my computer would not
> > > connect from the installed Jaunty application. If this gets through, I
> > > am connected using Jaunty Live CD. Thanks!
> > >
> > > Steven
> >
> > It wasn't me who asked but that's Great!
> >
> > I've had an idea. Try something else. Connect your broken computer to
> > your modem and boot it from the hard disc (not the live CD).
> >
> > Make sure KMail is not running.
> >
> > Find the following files and *move* them somewhere (for example into
> > /home/steven): /home/steven/.kde/share/config/kmailrc
> > /home/steven/.kde/share/config/kmailcvtrc
> > /home/steven/.kde/share/config/kmail.eventsrc
> > (If you're using Dolphin you will have to enable View->Show Hidden Files
> > from the menu to find the .kmail folder) If you can't find all 3, don't
> > worry, just make sure to move the ones that do exist.
> >
> > Also find the following directory and *move* that as well (DON'T delete
> > it, you will need it later): /home/steven/share/apps/kmail
> >
> > Now start KMail again. You will have to reconfigure it but I think you're
> > getting quite good at that :) You will notice all your old email has also
> > gone, but that's why you moved the folder and didn't delete it.
> >
> > Try sending another email and see if it works. I'm working on the guess
> > that your kmail configuration is corrupt. This will remove it and allow
> > you to recreate it. If it sorts out the problem then we'll work on
> > getting your saved email back. If it doesn't work, put the files and the
> > folder back where they started from and we'll have another think.
> >
> > Mark.
The only thing I couldn't do is move a file named /kmailcvtrc, I did not have
that file. When completed, I opened and reconfigured kmail. I could not use
the feature (What the server recommends, because I am unable to get a
connection through router or modem to the ISP, so I made the proper selections
and tried to open kmail. I got the same error message I have been getting,
Unknown Host pop.att.yahoo.com.
I am going to wait for instructions, because both configuration entries are the
same I believe and I hope it doesn't matter which I remove when this is all
over. As far as the moved data, do I just put it back where it was or do I
rename the entries that are currently functioning and then return the moved
files back.
Is there any possibility that the fact that I do not have /kmailcvtrc that
that could be causing the problem??
Steven
>
> ... but try Thomas Olsen's suggestion first, that looks more likely.
>
> Mark
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p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }On Tuesday 16 June 2009 02:57:12 pm Mark Greenwood wrote:
> On Tuesday 16 Jun 2009 19:44:12 Mark Greenwood wrote:
> > On Tuesday 16 Jun 2009 18:46:28 Steven Vollom wrote:
> > > I forget who posted, sorry, but I was asked to try to connect to the
> > > Internet and kmail using the live CD, since my computer would not
> > > connect from the installed Jaunty application. If this gets through, I
> > > am connected using Jaunty Live CD. Thanks!
> > >
> > > Steven
> >
> > It wasn't me who asked but that's Great!
> >
> > I've had an idea. Try something else. Connect your broken computer to
> > your modem and boot it from the hard disc (not the live CD).
> >
> > Make sure KMail is not running.
> >
> > Find the following files and *move* them somewhere (for example into
> > /home/steven): /home/steven/.kde/share/config/kmailrc
> > /home/steven/.kde/share/config/kmailcvtrc
> > /home/steven/.kde/share/config/kmail.eventsrc
> > (If you're using Dolphin you will have to enable View->Show Hidden Files
> > from the menu to find the .kmail folder) If you can't find all 3, don't
> > worry, just make sure to move the ones that do exist.
> >
> > Also find the following directory and *move* that as well (DON'T delete
> > it, you will need it later): /home/steven/share/apps/kmail
> >
> > Now start KMail again. You will have to reconfigure it but I think you're
> > getting quite good at that :) You will notice all your old email has also
> > gone, but that's why you moved the folder and didn't delete it.
> >
> > Try sending another email and see if it works. I'm working on the guess
> > that your kmail configuration is corrupt. This will remove it and allow
> > you to recreate it. If it sorts out the problem then we'll work on
> > getting your saved email back. If it doesn't work, put the files and the
> > folder back where they started from and we'll have another think.
> >
> > Mark.
The only thing I couldn't do is move a file named /kmailcvtrc, I did not have that file. When completed, I opened and reconfigured kmail. I could not use the feature (What the server recommends, because I am unable to get a connection through router or modem to the ISP, so I made the proper selections and tried to open kmail. I got the same error message I have been getting, Unknown Host pop.att.yahoo.com.
I am going to wait for instructions, because both configuration entries are the same I believe and I hope it doesn't matter which I remove when this is all over. As far as the moved data, do I just put it back where it was or do I rename the entries that are currently functioning and then return the moved files back.
Is there any possibility that the fact that I do not have /kmailcvtrc that that could be causing the problem??
Steven
>
> ... but try Thomas Olsen's suggestion first, that looks more likely.
>
> Mark

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On Friday 19 Jun 2009 17:43:55 Steven Vollom wrote:
> On Tuesday 16 June 2009 02:57:12 pm Mark Greenwood wrote:
> > On Tuesday 16 Jun 2009 19:44:12 Mark Greenwood wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 16 Jun 2009 18:46:28 Steven Vollom wrote:
> > > > I forget who posted, sorry, but I was asked to try to connect to the
> > > > Internet and kmail using the live CD, since my computer would not
> > > > connect from the installed Jaunty application. If this gets through, I
> > > > am connected using Jaunty Live CD. Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Steven
> > >
> > > It wasn't me who asked but that's Great!
> > >
> > > I've had an idea. Try something else. Connect your broken computer to
> > > your modem and boot it from the hard disc (not the live CD).
> > >
> > > Make sure KMail is not running.
> > >
> > > Find the following files and *move* them somewhere (for example into
> > > /home/steven): /home/steven/.kde/share/config/kmailrc
> > > /home/steven/.kde/share/config/kmailcvtrc
> > > /home/steven/.kde/share/config/kmail.eventsrc
> > > (If you're using Dolphin you will have to enable View->Show Hidden Files
> > > from the menu to find the .kmail folder) If you can't find all 3, don't
> > > worry, just make sure to move the ones that do exist.
> > >
> > > Also find the following directory and *move* that as well (DON'T delete
> > > it, you will need it later): /home/steven/share/apps/kmail
> > >
> > > Now start KMail again. You will have to reconfigure it but I think you're
> > > getting quite good at that :) You will notice all your old email has also
> > > gone, but that's why you moved the folder and didn't delete it.
> > >
> > > Try sending another email and see if it works. I'm working on the guess
> > > that your kmail configuration is corrupt. This will remove it and allow
> > > you to recreate it. If it sorts out the problem then we'll work on
> > > getting your saved email back. If it doesn't work, put the files and the
> > > folder back where they started from and we'll have another think.
> > >
> > > Mark.
>
> The only thing I couldn't do is move a file named /kmailcvtrc, I did not have
> that file. When completed, I opened and reconfigured kmail. I could not use
> the feature (What the server recommends, because I am unable to get a
> connection through router or modem to the ISP, so I made the proper selections
> and tried to open kmail. I got the same error message I have been getting,
> Unknown Host pop.att.yahoo.com.
>
> I am going to wait for instructions, because both configuration entries are the
> same I believe and I hope it doesn't matter which I remove when this is all
> over. As far as the moved data, do I just put it back where it was or do I
> rename the entries that are currently functioning and then return the moved
> files back.
>
> Is there any possibility that the fact that I do not have /kmailcvtrc that
> that could be causing the problem??
Hi Steven,
You should move all the files back where they were. Kmail will have now created new versions of them but you can safely overwrite those. Make sure KMail is not running when you do this.
What we've proved here is that the problem is not with your KMail configuration, so you very probably have a network configuration problem - others are already helping you with this.
The kmailcvtrc file is very unlikely to be anything to do with it. So I would now follow the advice Thomas Olsen has been giving you.
Mark
>
> Steven
> >
> > ... but try Thomas Olsen's suggestion first, that looks more likely.
> >
> > Mark
>
>
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On Friday 19 June 2009 01:26:08 pm Mark Greenwood wrote:
> On Friday 19 Jun 2009 17:43:55 Steven Vollom wrote:
> > On Tuesday 16 June 2009 02:57:12 pm Mark Greenwood wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 16 Jun 2009 19:44:12 Mark Greenwood wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday 16 Jun 2009 18:46:28 Steven Vollom wrote:
> > > > > I forget who posted, sorry, but I was asked to try to connect to
> > > > > the Internet and kmail using the live CD, since my computer would
> > > > > not connect from the installed Jaunty application. If this gets
> > > > > through, I am connected using Jaunty Live CD. Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > Steven
> > > >
> > > > It wasn't me who asked but that's Great!
> > > >
> > > > I've had an idea. Try something else. Connect your broken computer to
> > > > your modem and boot it from the hard disc (not the live CD).
> > > >
> > > > Make sure KMail is not running.
> > > >
> > > > Find the following files and *move* them somewhere (for example into
> > > > /home/steven): /home/steven/.kde/share/config/kmailrc
> > > > /home/steven/.kde/share/config/kmailcvtrc
> > > > /home/steven/.kde/share/config/kmail.eventsrc
> > > > (If you're using Dolphin you will have to enable View->Show Hidden
> > > > Files from the menu to find the .kmail folder) If you can't find all
> > > > 3, don't worry, just make sure to move the ones that do exist.
> > > >
> > > > Also find the following directory and *move* that as well (DON'T
> > > > delete it, you will need it later): /home/steven/share/apps/kmail
> > > >
> > > > Now start KMail again. You will have to reconfigure it but I think
> > > > you're getting quite good at that :) You will notice all your old
> > > > email has also gone, but that's why you moved the folder and didn't
> > > > delete it.
> > > >
> > > > Try sending another email and see if it works. I'm working on the
> > > > guess that your kmail configuration is corrupt. This will remove it
> > > > and allow you to recreate it. If it sorts out the problem then we'll
> > > > work on getting your saved email back. If it doesn't work, put the
> > > > files and the folder back where they started from and we'll have
> > > > another think.
> > > >
> > > > Mark.
> >
> > The only thing I couldn't do is move a file named /kmailcvtrc, I did not
> > have that file. When completed, I opened and reconfigured kmail. I
> > could not use the feature (What the server recommends, because I am
> > unable to get a connection through router or modem to the ISP, so I made
> > the proper selections and tried to open kmail. I got the same error
> > message I have been getting, Unknown Host pop.att.yahoo.com.
> >
> > I am going to wait for instructions, because both configuration entries
> > are the same I believe and I hope it doesn't matter which I remove when
> > this is all over. As far as the moved data, do I just put it back where
> > it was or do I rename the entries that are currently functioning and then
> > return the moved files back.
> >
> > Is there any possibility that the fact that I do not have /kmailcvtrc
> > that that could be causing the problem??
>
> Hi Steven,
>
> You should move all the files back where they were. Kmail will have now
> created new versions of them but you can safely overwrite those. Make sure
> KMail is not running when you do this.
>
> What we've proved here is that the problem is not with your KMail
> configuration, so you very probably have a network configuration problem -
> others are already helping you with this.
>
> The kmailcvtrc file is very unlikely to be anything to do with it. So I
> would now follow the advice Thomas Olsen has been giving you.
>
> Mark
>
> > Steven
> >
> > > ... but try Thomas Olsen's suggestion first, that looks more likely.
> > >
> > > Mark
Thanks Mark. It is great to eliminate possibilities. I was so confident that
configuration was right, it was difficult to broach the subject over and over.
You are most appreciated.
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p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }On Friday 19 June 2009 01:26:08 pm Mark Greenwood wrote:
> On Friday 19 Jun 2009 17:43:55 Steven Vollom wrote:
> > On Tuesday 16 June 2009 02:57:12 pm Mark Greenwood wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 16 Jun 2009 19:44:12 Mark Greenwood wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday 16 Jun 2009 18:46:28 Steven Vollom wrote:
> > > > > I forget who posted, sorry, but I was asked to try to connect to
> > > > > the Internet and kmail using the live CD, since my computer would
> > > > > not connect from the installed Jaunty application. If this gets
> > > > > through, I am connected using Jaunty Live CD. Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > Steven
> > > >
> > > > It wasn't me who asked but that's Great!
> > > >
> > > > I've had an idea. Try something else. Connect your broken computer to
> > > > your modem and boot it from the hard disc (not the live CD).
> > > >
> > > > Make sure KMail is not running.
> > > >
> > > > Find the following files and *move* them somewhere (for example into
> > > > /home/steven): /home/steven/.kde/share/config/kmailrc
> > > > /home/steven/.kde/share/config/kmailcvtrc
> > > > /home/steven/.kde/share/config/kmail.eventsrc
> > > > (If you're using Dolphin you will have to enable View->Show Hidden
> > > > Files from the menu to find the .kmail folder) If you can't find all
> > > > 3, don't worry, just make sure to move the ones that do exist.
> > > >
> > > > Also find the following directory and *move* that as well (DON'T
> > > > delete it, you will need it later): /home/steven/share/apps/kmail
> > > >
> > > > Now start KMail again. You will have to reconfigure it but I think
> > > > you're getting quite good at that :) You will notice all your old
> > > > email has also gone, but that's why you moved the folder and didn't
> > > > delete it.
> > > >
> > > > Try sending another email and see if it works. I'm working on the
> > > > guess that your kmail configuration is corrupt. This will remove it
> > > > and allow you to recreate it. If it sorts out the problem then we'll
> > > > work on getting your saved email back. If it doesn't work, put the
> > > > files and the folder back where they started from and we'll have
> > > > another think.
> > > >
> > > > Mark.
> >
> > The only thing I couldn't do is move a file named /kmailcvtrc, I did not
> > have that file. When completed, I opened and reconfigured kmail. I
> > could not use the feature (What the server recommends, because I am
> > unable to get a connection through router or modem to the ISP, so I made
> > the proper selections and tried to open kmail. I got the same error
> > message I have been getting, Unknown Host pop.att.yahoo.com.
> >
> > I am going to wait for instructions, because both configuration entries
> > are the same I believe and I hope it doesn't matter which I remove when
> > this is all over. As far as the moved data, do I just put it back where
> > it was or do I rename the entries that are currently functioning and then
> > return the moved files back.
> >
> > Is there any possibility that the fact that I do not have /kmailcvtrc
> > that that could be causing the problem??
>
> Hi Steven,
>
> You should move all the files back where they were. Kmail will have now
> created new versions of them but you can safely overwrite those. Make sure
> KMail is not running when you do this.
>
> What we've proved here is that the problem is not with your KMail
> configuration, so you very probably have a network configuration problem -
> others are already helping you with this.
>
> The kmailcvtrc file is very unlikely to be anything to do with it. So I
> would now follow the advice Thomas Olsen has been giving you.
>
> Mark
>
> > Steven
> >
> > > ... but try Thomas Olsen's suggestion first, that looks more likely.
> > >
> > > Mark
Thanks Mark. It is great to eliminate possibilities. I was so confident that configuration was right, it was difficult to broach the subject over and over.
You are most appreciated.
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On Friday 19 June 2009 12:18:07 pm David Kuntadi wrote:
> When you run live cd, it is connected through eth2.
>
> Boot from harddisk, open ternimal and issue:
>
> gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
>
> add below lines:
>
> auto eth2
> iface eth0 inet dhcp
>
> Save and close the text editor, and run in terminal:
>
> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
>
> After that, check again ifconfig, see whether eth2 now already up. If
> it is up, you should be able to connect internet.
>
> DK
gksudo is not currently installed, and I can not install because I am not able
to connect. Shoot, and that sounded like it may work. I never had cause to
use that application yet, so it was not installed. Thanks for trying; you are
terrific.
Is there any way to download something like that to a folder and create a live
CD with it. It is probably a crazy thought, but it passed through the cobwebs
of my mind and exited my through my hands. There have been several things I
could not try due to lack of connection. I have been trying to figure out way
to get applications to a state of live CD, where I can install them like we
did with Sindoze.
Steven
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p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }On Friday 19 June 2009 12:18:07 pm David Kuntadi wrote:
> When you run live cd, it is connected through eth2.
>
> Boot from harddisk, open ternimal and issue:
>
> gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
>
> add below lines:
>
> auto eth2
> iface eth0 inet dhcp
>
> Save and close the text editor, and run in terminal:
>
> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
>
> After that, check again ifconfig, see whether eth2 now already up. If
> it is up, you should be able to connect internet.
>
> DK
gksudo is not currently installed, and I can not install because I am not able to connect. Shoot, and that sounded like it may work. I never had cause to use that application yet, so it was not installed. Thanks for trying; you are terrific.
Is there any way to download something like that to a folder and create a live CD with it. It is probably a crazy thought, but it passed through the cobwebs of my mind and exited my through my hands. There have been several things I could not try due to lack of connection. I have been trying to figure out way to get applications to a state of live CD, where I can install them like we did with Sindoze.
Steven
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Hi Steven,
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 00:55, Steven Vollom wrote:
>
Please, stop sending HTML mail, it looks horrible, especially with the
large font size and the list does *not* allow HTML
Regards, Myriam
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On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Steven
Vollom wrote:
>> gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
>>
>> add below lines:
>>
>> auto eth2
>> iface eth0 inet dhcp
>>
>> Save and close the text editor, and run in terminal:
>>
>> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
>>
>> After that, check again ifconfig, see whether eth2 now already up. If
>> it is up, you should be able to connect internet.
>>
>> DK
>
> gksudo is not currently installed, and I can not install because I am not
> able to connect. Shoot, and that sounded like it may work. I never had cause
> to use that application yet, so it was not installed. Thanks for trying; you
> are terrific.
It is quite strange it is not install. You could try gksu instead of gksudo:
gksu gedit /etc/network/interfaces
If it is not install as well, then use sudo nano:
sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
add:
auto eth2
iface eth2 inet dhcp
after that O to save it, and x to exit nano.
then run in terminal
sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart.
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On Saturday 20 Jun 2009 02:39:16 David Kuntadi wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Steven
> Vollom wrote:
> >> gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
> >>
> >> add below lines:
> >>
> >> auto eth2
> >> iface eth0 inet dhcp
> >>
> >> Save and close the text editor, and run in terminal:
> >>
> >> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
> >>
> >> After that, check again ifconfig, see whether eth2 now already up. If
> >> it is up, you should be able to connect internet.
> >>
> >> DK
> >
> > gksudo is not currently installed, and I can not install because I am not
> > able to connect. Shoot, and that sounded like it may work. I never had cause
> > to use that application yet, so it was not installed. Thanks for trying; you
> > are terrific.
>
> It is quite strange it is not install.
No it's not strange. Steven has KDE.. he should try 'kdesudo kate' to open an editor as root, which I think he already knows about
> You could try gksu instead of gksudo:
>
> gksu gedit /etc/network/interfaces
>
> If it is not install as well, then use sudo nano:
>
> sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
>
> add:
>
> auto eth2
> iface eth2 inet dhcp
>
> after that O to save it, and x to exit nano.
>
> then run in terminal
>
> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart.
>
> DK
>
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On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 2:38 AM, Mark Greenwood wrote:
> No it's not strange. Steven has KDE.. he should try 'kdesudo kate' to open an editor as root, which I think he already knows about
Oh I forgot I am in kubuntu mailing list. I am using ubuntu.
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On Friday 19 June 2009 07:22:31 pm Myriam Schweingruber wrote:
> Hi Steven,
>
> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 00:55, Steven Vollom
> wrote:
>
> Please, stop sending HTML mail, it looks horrible, especially with the
> large font size and the list does *not* allow HTML
>
>
> Regards, Myriam
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> use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300)
I have made no changes to HTML. I don't know how to change them. How do I do
that? Actually, I just went to options and saw that I had HTML checked. Is
it possible for that to happen without a person actually checking it? This is
very strange. I am alone and haven't checked it.
Sorry.
Steven
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On Friday 19 June 2009 09:39:16 pm David Kuntadi wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Steven
>
> Vollom wrote:
> >> gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
> >>
> >> add below lines:
> >>
> >> auto eth2
> >> iface eth0 inet dhcp
> >>
> >> Save and close the text editor, and run in terminal:
> >>
> >> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
> >>
> >> After that, check again ifconfig, see whether eth2 now already up. If
> >> it is up, you should be able to connect internet. until there was a space
between:
> >>
> >> DK
> >
> > gksudo is not currently installed, and I can not install because I am not
> > able to connect. Shoot, and that sounded like it may work. I never had
> > cause to use that application yet, so it was not installed. Thanks for
> > trying; you are terrific.
>
> It is quite strange it is not install. You could try gksu instead of
> gksudo:
>
> gksu gedit /etc/network/interfaces
>
> If it is not install as well, then use sudo nano:
>
> sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces until there was a space between:
>
> add:
> until there was a space between:
> auto eth2
> iface eth2 inet dhcp
>
> after that O to save it, and x to exit nano.
>
> then run in terminal
>
> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart.
>
> DK
This is new for me David. The first 'a' of 'auto lo' was highlighted after I
opened sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces. I pressed the down arrow and made
the addition; it looks like this:
auto lo until there was a space between:
iface lo inet loopback
address 127.0.0.1
netmask 255.0.0.0
auto eth2
iface eth2 inet dhcp
It looked like you made a 'ctrl O' or the large letter 'O" not the number
zero, so I pressed 'ctrl O' nothing appeared to happen. I then
pressed 'ctrl x', again nothing appeared to happen.
I don't think it was saved, or that ctrl x exited me, because the window that
appears like a shell remained. The 'file' menu did not show a save option. I
closed the window usiing the X in the upper right corner.
I opened Dolphin and went to /etc/network/interfaces and checked, and it was
not saved. I then opened kdesudo kate and edited the interfaces entry by
making the addition you suggested. I clicked on save and closed the
application.
The current ifconfig is:
steven@Yeshua:~$ ifconfig
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0d:88:1c:a7:71
UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
Interrupt:17 Base address:0xd800
eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:40:05:39:47:8d
UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
Interrupt:18 Base address:0xd400
eth2 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:08:74:d4:1f:3a
inet addr:192.168.0.101 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
inet6 addr: fe80::208:74ff:fed4:1f3a/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:404 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:7 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
RX bytes:133828 (133.8 KB) TX bytes:810 (810.0 B)
lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
RX packets:24 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:24 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:1144 (1.1 KB) TX bytes:1144 (1.1 KB)
steven@Yeshua:~$
I tried again to send and receive an email. I got the same error:
Unknown Host pop.att.yahoo.com
I rechecked Kmail configuration and confirmed that it is correct. I have done
this same step with Eberhard, Hein and others. As a last minute check before
sending, I rechecked interfaces and they are as you requested. I rechecked
Kmail configuration again. Perfice. Everything has been tripple checked.
The connection each time has been direct from the broken computer to the DSL
modem. Thanks!
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On Friday 19 June 2009 10:01:55 pm D. R. Evans wrote:
> Myriam Schweingruber said the following at 06/19/2009 05:22 PM :
> > Hi Steven,
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 00:55, Steven Vollom
> > wrote: Please, stop sending HTML mail, it looks horrible, especially with
> > the large font size and the list does *not* allow HTML
>
> Actually, he sends multipart/alternative. So it's the recipient who chooses
> which version to display.
>
> Doc
Actually, I don't know how that happened. I checked and found the HTML
checked. I did not do that, so I don't even know when it started. I have
returned it to the way I usually have it. I just checked and it still is NOT
checked. I am sorry.
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On Friday 19 June 2009 10:01:55 pm D. R. Evans wrote:
> Myriam Schweingruber said the following at 06/19/2009 05:22 PM :
> > Hi Steven,
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 00:55, Steven Vollom
> > wrote: Please, stop sending HTML mail, it looks horrible, especially with
> > the large font size and the list does *not* allow HTML
>
> Actually, he sends multipart/alternative. So it's the recipient who chooses
> which version to display.
>
> Doc
Hi Doc,
Did you get the last email as text only? That is the way I have always had it
set up since first getting on the list.
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On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 11:11 PM, Steven
Vollom wrote:
> eth2 =A0 =A0 =A0Link encap:Ethernet =A0HWaddr 00:08:74:d4:1f:3a
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0inet addr:192.168.0.101 =A0Bcast:192.168.0.255 =A0Mask=
:255.255.255.0
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0inet6 addr: fe80::208:74ff:fed4:1f3a/64 Scope:Link
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST =A0MTU:1500 =A0Metric:1
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0RX packets:404 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0TX packets:7 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0RX bytes:133828 (133.8 KB) =A0TX bytes:810 (810.0 B)
At least eth2 is up now, could you browse internet?
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On Saturday 20 June 2009 03:38:24 pm Mark Greenwood wrote:
> On Saturday 20 Jun 2009 02:39:16 David Kuntadi wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Steven
> >
> > Vollom wrote:
> > >> gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
> > >>
> > >> add below lines:
> > >>
> > >> auto eth2
> > >> iface eth0 inet dhcp
> > >>
> > >> Save and close the text editor, and run in terminal:
> > >>
> > >> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
> > >>
> > >> After that, check again ifconfig, see whether eth2 now already up. If
> > >> it is up, you should be able to connect internet.
> > >>
> > >> DK
> > >
> > > gksudo is not currently installed, and I can not install because I am
> > > not able to connect. Shoot, and that sounded like it may work. I never
> > > had cause to use that application yet, so it was not installed. Thanks
> > > for trying; you are terrific.
> >
> > It is quite strange it is not install.
>
> No it's not strange. Steven has KDE.. he should try 'kdesudo kate' to open
> an editor as root, which I think he already knows about
>
> > You could try gksu instead of gksudo:
> >
> > gksu gedit /etc/network/interfaces
> >
> > If it is not install as well, then use sudo nano:
> >
> > sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
> >
> > add:
> >
> > auto eth2
> > iface eth2 inet dhcp
> >
> > after that O to save it, and x to exit nano.
> >
> > then run in terminal
> >
> > sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart.
> >
> > DK
I used kdesudo kate and made the edit. It is done, but had no affect on
connecting to the internet. Same response Unknown User.
Thanks for sticking in there. I really want to solve the problem.
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On Monday 22 June 2009 12:53:14 pm David Kuntadi wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 11:11 PM, Steven
>
> Vollom wrote:
> > eth2 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:08:74:d4:1f:3a
> > inet addr:192.168.0.101 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
> > inet6 addr: fe80::208:74ff:fed4:1f3a/64 Scope:Link
> > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
> > RX packets:404 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> > TX packets:7 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> > collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
> > RX bytes:133828 (133.8 KB) TX bytes:810 (810.0 B)
>
> At least eth2 is up now, could you browse internet?
>
> DK
No. I got the same error message, Unknown Host. I also confirmed my host
setting with AT&T. So my configuration is correct on that point. All
configuration in the mail program for this laptop I am successfully sending
messages on is exactly the same in the busted box. thanks!
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On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Steven
Vollom wrote:
> No. =A0I got the same error message, Unknown Host. =A0I also confirmed my=
host
> setting with AT&T. =A0So my configuration is correct on that point. =A0All
> configuration in the mail program for this laptop I am successfully sendi=
ng
> messages on is exactly the same in the busted box. =A0thanks!
On the damaged ubuntu, could you try open terminal and then:
ping 64.233.189.100
What is the result?
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On Wednesday 24 June 2009 10:12:45 pm David Kuntadi wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Steven
>
> Vollom wrote:
> > No. I got the same error message, Unknown Host. I also confirmed my
> > host setting with AT&T. So my configuration is correct on that point.
> > All configuration in the mail program for this laptop I am successfully
> > sending messages on is exactly the same in the busted box. thanks!
>
> On the damaged ubuntu, could you try open terminal and then:
>
> ping 64.233.189.100
>
> What is the result?
>
> DK
I can't remember how to do that. I did a google search and couldn't
understand the conversation surrounding it. I couldn't find a place where it
was simply explained. I have done it before, it just has been too long ago,
and I have not done it often enough to remember yet. I am sorry.
I have made a connection using a browser using an alternate Router and the
laptop. I was unable to send an email, but was able to browse. After
receiving this email, I connected the Router to the Modem/Router and the
Router to the laptop and was able to surf the Internet, but when I attempte to
send this email, it would not send. I reconnected the laptop directly to the
Modem/Router and am sending it now.
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On Wednesday 24 June 2009 10:12:45 pm David Kuntadi wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Steven
>
> Vollom wrote:
> > No. I got the same error message, Unknown Host. I also confirmed my
> > host setting with AT&T. So my configuration is correct on that point.
> > All configuration in the mail program for this laptop I am successfully
> > sending messages on is exactly the same in the busted box. thanks!
>
> On the damaged ubuntu, could you try open terminal and then:
>
> ping 64.233.189.100
>
> What is the result?
>
> DK
I feel a bit silly, but I typed the address in the command line and pinged the
address, it said Sndmssg: operation not permitted.
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On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Steven
Vollom wrote:
> I feel a bit silly, but I typed the address in the command line and pinge=
d the
> address, it said Sndmssg: =A0operation not permitted.
Might be a problem with iptable/firewall.
How about if you just reinstall kubuntu from scratch? May be much
easier and faster than trouble shooting.
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