Python Imaging Library download link broken?

peter
2009-06-27T09:57:09+00:00

Just got a new computer and I'm trying to download my favourite
applications.  All's well until I get to PIL, and here pythonware and
effbot both return a 502 Proxy error.

Is this just a temporary glitch, or something more serious?  And if
it's the latter, is there any alternative source?

Peter


Re: Python Imaging Library download link broken? by olivergeorge on 2009-06-27T11:59:26+00:00
Ditto.  Anyone know what's happening with pythonware?  (and why PIL is
such a pain to install for that matter.)

Re: Python Imaging Library download link broken? by Scott David Daniels on 2009-06-27T20:01:52+00:00
olivergeorge wrote:
> Ditto.  Anyone know what's happening with pythonware?  (and why PIL is
> such a pain to install for that matter.)

(1) It is usually there; be patient.
(2) I suggest you demand a refund.


Re: Python Imaging Library download link broken? by Lawrence D'Oliveiro on 2009-06-29T05:50:19+00:00
In message <976cc575-80b9-406a-
ae4d-03cb4d401dc4@p36g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, olivergeorge wrote:

> (and why PIL is such a pain to install for that matter.)

"apt-get install python-imaging", anybody?


Re: Python Imaging Library download link broken? by John Machin on 2009-06-29T06:31:49+00:00
On Jun 28, 6:02=A0am, Scott David Daniels <Scott.Dani...@Acm.Org> wrote:
> olivergeorge wrote:
> > Ditto. =A0Anyone know what's happening with pythonware? =A0(and why PIL=
 is
> > such a pain to install for that matter.)
>

> (2) I suggest you demand a refund.

... and tell us what the response was :-)


Re: Python Imaging Library download link broken? by Tim Harig on 2009-06-29T07:05:07+00:00
On 2009-06-29, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new-zealand> wrote:
> "apt-get install python-imaging", anybody?

C:>apt-get install python-imaging
Bad command or file name

Nope.

01:10,501$ apt-get install python-imaging
bash: apt-get: command not found

Not quite; but, it does give me an idea.  Debian usually keeps the
origional source packages in their package repositories:

02:09,502,(1)$ wget http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/python-imaging/python1.1.5.orig.tar.gz
           => `python-imaging-1.1.5.orig.tar.gz'
Resolving ftp.de.debian.org... 141.76.2.4
Connecting to ftp.de.debian.org|141.76.2.4|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 429,570 (420K) [application/x-gzip]

100%[=========================================>] 429,570      246.97K/s

02:09:43 (246.26 KB/s) - `python-imaging-1.1.5.orig.tar.gz' saved [429570/429570]

01:10,503$

Now that's the ticket!

Re: Python Imaging Library download link broken? by Lawrence D'Oliveiro on 2009-06-29T11:25:06+00:00
In message <xGZ1m.1934$Wj7.25@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com>, Tim Harig wrote:

> On 2009-06-29, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new-zealand>
> wrote:
>
>> "apt-get install python-imaging", anybody?
> 
> C:>apt-get install python-imaging
> Bad command or file name

Sounds more like broken OS with no integrated package management.


Re: Python Imaging Library download link broken? by Tim Harig on 2009-06-29T12:16:47+00:00
On 2009-06-29, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new-zealand> wrote:
> Sounds more like broken OS with no integrated package management.

Package managers with dependency tracking were all the rage when I first
started using Linux.  So I tried Red Hat and everything worked great until
the depency database corrupted itself.  Since then, I have learned to
install using whatever package manager but to upgrade or install new
packages from source.

Re: Python Imaging Library download link broken? by peter on 2009-06-29T13:00:08+00:00
Whilst this is an interesting discussion about installers, I'm still
trying to find a copy of PIL.  Any ideas?

Re: Python Imaging Library download link broken? by Tim Harig on 2009-06-29T13:31:49+00:00
On 2009-06-29, peter <peter.mosley@talk21.com> wrote:
> Whilst this is an interesting discussion about installers, I'm still
> trying to find a copy of PIL.  Any ideas?

I alluded to a source version below.  It will compile on Windows as well as
on *nix.

Google finds what looks like older versions here:

http://sping.sourceforge.net/PIL/

Re: Python Imaging Library download link broken? by geo on 2009-06-29T18:46:47+00:00
On Jun 29, 2:54=A0pm, peter <peter.mos...@talk21.com> wrote:
> Whilst this is an interesting discussion about installers, I'm still
> trying to find a copy of PIL. =A0Any ideas?

Hello,

I had the very same problem and found this:

http://www.portablepython.com/

It contains PIL and some other cool stuff. Hope it helps.

George

Re: Python Imaging Library download link broken? by peter on 2009-06-29T21:00:07+00:00
Thanks for this - looks promising.   But I've just tried pythonware
again and it's back up - so it was just a glitch after all.

Peter

Re: Python Imaging Library download link broken? by Piet van Oostrum on 2009-06-29T21:15:14+00:00
>>>>> peter <peter.mosley@talk21.com> (p) wrote:

>p> Whilst this is an interesting discussion about installers, I'm still
>p> trying to find a copy of PIL.  Any ideas?

Pythonware is up again:

http://pythonware.com/products/pil/index.htm

Re: Python Imaging Library download link broken? by magicus on 2009-06-29T23:16:46+00:00
On Mon Jun 29 2009 07:21:12 GMT-0400 (EDT) Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<ldo@geek-central.gen.new-zealand> typed:
> In message <xGZ1m.1934$Wj7.25@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com>, Tim Harig wrote:
> 
>> On 2009-06-29, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new-zealand>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "apt-get install python-imaging", anybody?
>> C:>apt-get install python-imaging
>> Bad command or file name
> 
> Sounds more like broken OS with no integrated package management.
> 

:-P

It works here in the sense that it reports that there is nothing to do
as it is already installed.

ciao,
f


Re: Python Imaging Library download link broken? by Lawrence D'Oliveiro on 2009-06-30T08:21:50+00:00
In message <td22m.1717$8r.956@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com>, Tim Harig wrote:

> On 2009-06-29, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new-zealand>
> wrote:
>> Sounds more like broken OS with no integrated package management.
> 
> Package managers with dependency tracking were all the rage when I first
> started using Linux.  So I tried Red Hat and everything worked great until
> the depency database corrupted itself.

I have been using and administering various flavours of Linux

Re: Python Imaging Library download link broken? by Tim Harig on 2009-06-30T08:38:03+00:00
On 2009-06-30, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new-zealand> wrote:
> In message <td22m.1717$8r.956@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com>, Tim Harig wrote:
>> On 2009-06-29, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new-zealand>
>> wrote:
>>> Sounds more like broken OS with no integrated package management.
>> Package managers with dependency tracking were all the rage when I first
>> started using Linux.  So I tried Red Hat and everything worked great until
>> the depency database corrupted itself.
> I have been using and administering various flavours of Linuxdependencies where you cannot delete one application because it depends on
a second but you cannot remove the second because it depends on the first.

What can I say.  It happens.  It happened to me.

> If you thought they were "all the rage" before, they're pretty much 
> mandatory now.

I have been happy for years using my own heavily modified version of
Slackware for installing the base system.  After that, I install everything
from source.

Incidently, a similar discussion has started in a subthread of
comp.unix.shell.

Re: Python Imaging Library download link broken? by Steven D'Aprano on 2009-06-30T08:51:48+00:00
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:16:02 +1200, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> In message <td22m.1717$8r.956@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com>, Tim Harig wrote:
> 
>> On 2009-06-29, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new-zealand>
>> wrote:
>>> Sounds more like broken OS with no integrated package management.
>> 
>> Package managers with dependency tracking were all the rage when I
>> first started using Linux.  So I tried Red Hat and everything worked
>> great until the depency database corrupted itself.
> 
> I have been using and administering various flavours of Linux
yum clean all


on recent Redhat based systems. Worst case, there may be a lockfile that 
needs deleting as well.




Re: Python Imaging Library download link broken? by Tim Harig on 2009-06-30T09:00:07+00:00
On 2009-06-30, Steven D'Aprano <steven@REMOVE.THIS.cybersource.com.au> wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:16:02 +1200, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>> In message <td22m.1717$8r.956@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com>, Tim Harig wrote:
>>> Package managers with dependency tracking were all the rage when I
>>> first started using Linux.  So I tried Red Hat and everything worked
>>> great until the depency database corrupted itself.
>> I have been using and administering various flavours of Linux
Yum wasn't available then and I have never used it.  Maybe it does a better
job these days.  I don't know.  I get along fine without it.

ANN: Package Manager GUI for Python (Windows) by David Lyon on 2009-06-30T12:49:34+00:00

Hi All,

I'm pleased to announce a GUI package manager (v 0.12) for 
Python versions 2.x under Windows.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/pythonpkgmgr/

It's tightly linked to the pypi repository and offers
the following functions:

 - search packages on pypi by name

 - install (via easyinstall or pip)

 - deinstall/remove packages

 - see package documentation

 - see package examples

 - install .EGG packages

 - Generate package manifest

If you find any issues, please don't hesitate to report
them via our tracker on the project page.

Regards

David

Re: ANN: Package Manager GUI for Python (Windows) by Daniel Fetchinson on 2009-06-30T16:56:50+00:00
> Hi All,
>
> I'm pleased to announce a GUI package manager (v 0.12) for
> Python versions 2.x under Windows.
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/pythonpkgmgr/
>
> It's tightly linked to the pypi repository and offers
> the following functions:
>
>  - search packages on pypi by name
>
>  - install (via easyinstall or pip)
>
>  - deinstall/remove packages
>
>  - see package documentation
>
>  - see package examples
>
>  - install .EGG packages
>
>  - Generate package manifest
>
> If you find any issues, please don't hesitate to report
> them via our tracker on the project page.

Another time machine!

The Release Notes for version 0.11 on
http://www.preisshare.net/pythonpkgmgr/ says it was released on
10/09/09 :)

Cheers,
Daniel



Re: Python Imaging Library download link broken? by Tim Roberts on 2009-06-30T18:36:52+00:00
peter <peter.mosley@talk21.com> wrote:
>
>Just got a new computer and I'm trying to download my favourite
>applications.  All's well until I get to PIL, and here pythonware and
>effbot both return a 502 Proxy error.
>
>Is this just a temporary glitch, or something more serious?  And if
>it's the latter, is there any alternative source?

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