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They are expecting performance issues. I agree this has to be tested with
them after enabling it in non-production evironment and if there are still
performance issues really then move off those segments to a different
tablespace,Enable force logging for the rest of the tablespaces atleast.We
will set the expectation with business that those objects with nologging
cant be recovered on activation of standby
My question is
(*) will the Dataguard managed recovery itself have any issues if there is
noforce logging on primary?
(*) In other words is there any difference in implementing using manual
method versus Dataguard (MRP) with nologging as long as there is no impact
to log apply(recovery) on standby.
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Mathias Magnusson <
mathias.magnusson@gmail.com> wrote:
> What kind of problem does the business see with force logging? What
> transactions do you have that they require nologging on that is critical to
> the business?
>
> That is, are you fighting a theoretical or real problem? Force logging is
> that because it is needed. You cannot invent data that is now written to the
> log files. Manual or not, you'll have the same need to have logging occur.
>
> I think you are better off dealing with the actual issue, rather than
> something that seems to an opinion not based on hard data.
>
> Mathias
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 8:41 PM, sanjeev m wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> At our site we are having difficulty getting approval from business to
>> enable force logging on database objects.
>>
>> We plan to implement DR using manual method ie (shipping archive logs to
>> DR site through cronjob, performing manual recovery on mounted standby
>> controlfile)
>>
>> I understand without forcelogging all nologging transactions wont be
>> recoverable. Is this true during recovery or after activating the standby?
>>
>> Is forcelogging a mandatory pre-requisite for implementing Dataguard? Has
>> any of you have experience implementing Dataguard without force logging
>> enabled.
>>
>> Will there be any issues during managed recovery if it encounters a
>> nologging change? Wont we be hitting same issue if we are doing the recovery
>> manually as opposed to MRP process?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sanjeev.
>>
>
>
them after enabling it in non-production evironment and if there are still
performance issues really then move off those segments to a different
tablespace,Enable force logging for the rest of the tablespaces atleast.We
will set the expectation with business that those objects with nologging
cant be recovered on activation of standby
My question is
(*) will the Dataguard managed recovery itself have any issues if there is
noforce logging on primary?
(*) In other words is there any difference in implementing using manual
method versus Dataguard (MRP) with nologging as long as there is no impact
to log apply(recovery) on standby.
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Mathias Magnusson <
mathias.magnusson@gmail.com> wrote:
> What kind of problem does the business see with force logging? What
> transactions do you have that they require nologging on that is critical to
> the business?
>
> That is, are you fighting a theoretical or real problem? Force logging is
> that because it is needed. You cannot invent data that is now written to the
> log files. Manual or not, you'll have the same need to have logging occur.
>
> I think you are better off dealing with the actual issue, rather than
> something that seems to an opinion not based on hard data.
>
> Mathias
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 8:41 PM, sanjeev m wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> At our site we are having difficulty getting approval from business to
>> enable force logging on database objects.
>>
>> We plan to implement DR using manual method ie (shipping archive logs to
>> DR site through cronjob, performing manual recovery on mounted standby
>> controlfile)
>>
>> I understand without forcelogging all nologging transactions wont be
>> recoverable. Is this true during recovery or after activating the standby?
>>
>> Is forcelogging a mandatory pre-requisite for implementing Dataguard? Has
>> any of you have experience implementing Dataguard without force logging
>> enabled.
>>
>> Will there be any issues during managed recovery if it encounters a
>> nologging change? Wont we be hitting same issue if we are doing the recovery
>> manually as opposed to MRP process?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sanjeev.
>>
>
>
Conversations: Manual Standby as alternative to dataguard
- Manual Standby as alternative to dataguard by sanjeev m on 2009-06-16T18:42:34+00:00
- RE: Manual Standby as alternative to dataguard by Ric Van Dyke on 2009-06-16T18:59:47+00:00
- Re: Manual Standby as alternative to dataguard by Mathias Magnusson on 2009-06-16T19:00:45+00:00
- Re: Manual Standby as alternative to dataguard by Jared Still on 2009-06-16T19:36:32+00:00
- Re: Manual Standby as alternative to dataguard by sanjeev m on 2009-06-16T19:45:47+00:00
- RE: Manual Standby as alternative to dataguard by Ric Van Dyke on 2009-06-16T20:07:16+00:00
- Re: Manual Standby as alternative to dataguard by sanjeev m on 2009-06-16T21:12:15+00:00
- Re: Manual Standby as alternative to dataguard by Niall Litchfield on 2009-06-16T21:28:15+00:00
- Re: Manual Standby as alternative to dataguard by Nuno Souto on 2009-06-17T09:39:22+00:00
- RE: Manual Standby as alternative to dataguard by Ric Van Dyke on 2009-06-17T11:31:27+00:00
- Re: Manual Standby as alternative to dataguard by Joey D'Antoni on 2009-06-17T11:49:14+00:00
- Re: Manual Standby as alternative to dataguard by Ravi Madabhushanam on 2009-06-17T16:09:40+00:00
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