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On Fri, 2009-07-03 at 09:29 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Mike Galbraith wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 09:17 +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> >
> > > After I resurrect (well, try) live annotation in top...
> >
> > Random thought wrt live top annotation: instead of resurrecting in
> > the previous form, which could be a bit intrusive display space
> > wise, what do you think of this idea?
> >
> > Provide a kbd input snapshot trigger which builds a perf record
> > (hard?) compatible file for the symbols being displayed. Start a
> > background task to annotate the lot, stuffing annotate output into
> > an output file.
> >
> > Better ideas highly welcome.
>
> Hm, is there really a performance problem?
Sort of..
> We need to calculate and cache the objdump annotation output once,
> but after that it should be pretty fast as we just display updated
> counts with the same lines over and over again. No repeated objdump
> runs are needed.
But active files follow symbols, which change on the fly.
Besides, as mentioned previously, while displayed annotation was very
cool, it took a lot of display space. For me, top with the ability to
emit bic-disposable mini-reports would be my primary perf tools usage.
I'd only use big brothers when I needed their power/detail.
-Mike
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> * Mike Galbraith wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 09:17 +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> >
> > > After I resurrect (well, try) live annotation in top...
> >
> > Random thought wrt live top annotation: instead of resurrecting in
> > the previous form, which could be a bit intrusive display space
> > wise, what do you think of this idea?
> >
> > Provide a kbd input snapshot trigger which builds a perf record
> > (hard?) compatible file for the symbols being displayed. Start a
> > background task to annotate the lot, stuffing annotate output into
> > an output file.
> >
> > Better ideas highly welcome.
>
> Hm, is there really a performance problem?
Sort of..
> We need to calculate and cache the objdump annotation output once,
> but after that it should be pretty fast as we just display updated
> counts with the same lines over and over again. No repeated objdump
> runs are needed.
But active files follow symbols, which change on the fly.
Besides, as mentioned previously, while displayed annotation was very
cool, it took a lot of display space. For me, top with the ability to
emit bic-disposable mini-reports would be my primary perf tools usage.
I'd only use big brothers when I needed their power/detail.
-Mike
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Conversations: [patch 0/4] perf_counter tools: support annotation of live kernel modules
- [patch 0/4] perf_counter tools: support annotation of live kernel modules by Mike Galbraith on 2009-07-02T06:04:29+00:00
- [patch 1/4] perf_counter tools: Make symbol loading consistently return number of loaded symbols by Mike Galbraith on 2009-07-02T06:06:27+00:00
- [patch 2/4] perf_counter tools: Add infrastructure to support loading of kernel module symbols by Mike Galbraith on 2009-07-02T06:07:38+00:00
- [patch 3/4] perf_counter tools: connect module support infrastructure to symbol loading infrastructure by Mike Galbraith on 2009-07-02T06:08:57+00:00
- [patch 4/4] perf_counter tools: Enable kernel module symbol loading in tools by Mike Galbraith on 2009-07-02T06:10:08+00:00
- Re: [patch 0/4] perf_counter tools: support annotation of live kernel modules by Ingo Molnar on 2009-07-02T06:47:40+00:00
- [tip:perfcounters/urgent] perf_counter tools: Make symbol loading consistently return number of loaded symbols by tip-bot for Mike Galbraith on 2009-07-02T07:07:44+00:00
- [tip:perfcounters/urgent] perf_counter tools: Add infrastructure to support loading of kernel module symbols by tip-bot for Mike Galbraith on 2009-07-02T07:08:08+00:00
- [tip:perfcounters/urgent] perf_counter tools: Enable kernel module symbol loading in tools by tip-bot for Mike Galbraith on 2009-07-02T07:08:08+00:00
- [tip:perfcounters/urgent] perf_counter tools: Connect module support infrastructure to symbol loading infrastructure by tip-bot for Mike Galbraith on 2009-07-02T07:08:40+00:00
- Re: [patch 0/4] perf_counter tools: support annotation of live kernel modules by Mike Galbraith on 2009-07-02T07:18:27+00:00
- Re: [patch 0/4] perf_counter tools: support annotation of live kernel modules by Ingo Molnar on 2009-07-02T07:42:45+00:00
- Re: [patch 0/4] perf_counter tools: support annotation of live kernel modules by Mike Galbraith on 2009-07-02T07:56:05+00:00
- Re: [patch 0/4] perf_counter tools: support annotation of live kernel modules by Mike Galbraith on 2009-07-02T08:43:21+00:00
- Re: [patch 0/4] perf_counter tools: support annotation of live kernel modules by Mike Galbraith on 2009-07-02T08:54:02+00:00
- Re: [patch 0/4] perf_counter tools: support annotation of live kernel modules by Peter Zijlstra on 2009-07-02T12:11:17+00:00
- Re: [patch 0/4] perf_counter tools: support annotation of live kernel modules by Mike Galbraith on 2009-07-03T07:18:01+00:00
- Re: [patch 0/4] perf_counter tools: support annotation of live kernel modules by Ingo Molnar on 2009-07-03T07:24:33+00:00
- Re: [patch 0/4] perf_counter tools: support annotation of live kernel modules by Ingo Molnar on 2009-07-03T07:27:50+00:00
- Re: [patch 0/4] perf_counter tools: support annotation of live kernel modules by Ingo Molnar on 2009-07-03T07:30:09+00:00
- Re: [patch 0/4] perf_counter tools: support annotation of live kernel modules by Jaswinder Singh Rajput on 2009-07-03T07:33:04+00:00
- Re: [patch 0/4] perf_counter tools: support annotation of live kernel modules by Mike Galbraith on 2009-07-03T07:36:46+00:00
- Re: [patch 0/4] perf_counter tools: support annotation of live kernel modules by Mike Galbraith on 2009-07-03T08:01:26+00:00
- Re: [patch 0/4] perf_counter tools: support annotation of live kernel modules by Ingo Molnar on 2009-07-03T08:16:42+00:00
- Re: [patch 0/4] perf_counter tools: support annotation of live kernel modules by Mike Galbraith on 2009-07-03T08:35:56+00:00
- Re: [patch 0/4] perf_counter tools: support annotation of live kernel modules by Frederic Weisbecker on 2009-07-03T08:41:36+00:00
- Re: [patch 0/4] perf_counter tools: support annotation of live kernel modules by Ingo Molnar on 2009-07-03T08:54:07+00:00
- Re: [patch 0/4] perf_counter tools: support annotation of live kernel modules by Frederic Weisbecker on 2009-07-03T08:54:25+00:00
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