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I am running KDE 3.5.10 on Fedora 8. Lately, I have been losing icons here
and there. Mostly web favicons in my Konquiror Bookmarks list and
toolbars, and they come back sometimes. But this evening the Kopete icon
in the System Tray is gone. Kopete is still there, but there's a blank
space. My system has been up over 400 days - could that be it? Or symptom
of a larger looming problem?
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Jerome Yuzyk posted on Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:08:44 -0700 as excerpted:
> I am running KDE 3.5.10 on Fedora 8. Lately, I have been losing icons
> here and there. Mostly web favicons in my Konquiror Bookmarks list and
> toolbars, and they come back sometimes. But this evening the Kopete icon
> in the System Tray is gone. Kopete is still there, but there's a blank
> space. My system has been up over 400 days - could that be it? Or
> symptom of a larger looming problem?
That sounds like a slow xorg resource leak. You mention a 400 day
uptime. Is KDE/X up for long periods or do you shut X down and return to
the command prompt sometimes? That's what I'd do here, quit and restart X
and kde. That way you don't lose your uptime since it's only X that
you're quitting and restarting, not the entire system.
FWIW, you're lucky. Linux, like any good *ix, has the potential for multi-
hundred-day uptimes. However, X itself is often far less stable than
that, especially with live git sources graphics drivers like I'm currently
running, as the OpenGL support for my card is so new there's simply no
releases available with it, yet. X crashes regularly on me, and being
what it is, it unfortunately takes the rest of the system with it, so no
long uptimes here! (Not that they get anywhere near that long anyway, as
I like running live git kernels from about rc2 onward, and thus git pull
the kernel, compile and install the new version, and reboot to test it,
quite regularly.)
--
Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman
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> I am running KDE 3.5.10 on Fedora 8. Lately, I have been losing icons
> here and there. Mostly web favicons in my Konquiror Bookmarks list and
> toolbars, and they come back sometimes. But this evening the Kopete icon
> in the System Tray is gone. Kopete is still there, but there's a blank
> space. My system has been up over 400 days - could that be it? Or
> symptom of a larger looming problem?
That sounds like a slow xorg resource leak. You mention a 400 day
uptime. Is KDE/X up for long periods or do you shut X down and return to
the command prompt sometimes? That's what I'd do here, quit and restart X
and kde. That way you don't lose your uptime since it's only X that
you're quitting and restarting, not the entire system.
FWIW, you're lucky. Linux, like any good *ix, has the potential for multi-
hundred-day uptimes. However, X itself is often far less stable than
that, especially with live git sources graphics drivers like I'm currently
running, as the OpenGL support for my card is so new there's simply no
releases available with it, yet. X crashes regularly on me, and being
what it is, it unfortunately takes the rest of the system with it, so no
long uptimes here! (Not that they get anywhere near that long anyway, as
I like running live git kernels from about rc2 onward, and thus git pull
the kernel, compile and install the new version, and reboot to test it,
quite regularly.)
--
Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman
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> Jerome Yuzyk posted on Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:08:44 -0700 as excerpted:
>
>
>> I am running KDE 3.5.10 on Fedora 8. Lately, I have been losing icons
>> here and there. Mostly web favicons in my Konquiror Bookmarks list and
>> toolbars, and they come back sometimes. But this evening the Kopete icon
>> in the System Tray is gone. Kopete is still there, but there's a blank
>> space. My system has been up over 400 days - could that be it? Or
>> symptom of a larger looming problem?
>>
> That sounds like a slow xorg resource leak. You mention a 400 day
> uptime. Is KDE/X up for long periods or do you shut X down and return to
> the command prompt sometimes? That's what I'd do here, quit and restart X
> and kde. That way you don't lose your uptime since it's only X that
> you're quitting and restarting, not the entire system.
>
> FWIW, you're lucky. Linux, like any good *ix, has the potential for multi-
> hundred-day uptimes. However, X itself is often far less stable than
> that, especially with live git sources graphics drivers like I'm currently
> running, as the OpenGL support for my card is so new there's simply no
> releases available with it, yet. X crashes regularly on me, and being
> what it is, it unfortunately takes the rest of the system with it, so no
> long uptimes here! (Not that they get anywhere near that long anyway, as
> I like running live git kernels from about rc2 onward, and thus git pull
> the kernel, compile and install the new version, and reboot to test it,
> quite regularly.)
>
>
I agree that Linux, as far as the basic system, is designed for long
uptimes. The GUI may not tho. I have went a week or two without
logging out but it was using a lot of memory especially since I was
working with images a lot.
My fix is to go single user, clear out processes that are dead, go back
to regular user level and log back in. It works well. May be worth a try.
Dale
:-) :-)
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> Jerome Yuzyk posted on Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:08:44 -0700 as excerpted:
>
>
>> I am running KDE 3.5.10 on Fedora 8. Lately, I have been losing icons
>> here and there. Mostly web favicons in my Konquiror Bookmarks list and
>> toolbars, and they come back sometimes. But this evening the Kopete icon
>> in the System Tray is gone. Kopete is still there, but there's a blank
>> space. My system has been up over 400 days - could that be it? Or
>> symptom of a larger looming problem?
>>
> That sounds like a slow xorg resource leak. You mention a 400 day
> uptime. Is KDE/X up for long periods or do you shut X down and return to
> the command prompt sometimes? That's what I'd do here, quit and restart X
> and kde. That way you don't lose your uptime since it's only X that
> you're quitting and restarting, not the entire system.
>
> FWIW, you're lucky. Linux, like any good *ix, has the potential for multi-
> hundred-day uptimes. However, X itself is often far less stable than
> that, especially with live git sources graphics drivers like I'm currently
> running, as the OpenGL support for my card is so new there's simply no
> releases available with it, yet. X crashes regularly on me, and being
> what it is, it unfortunately takes the rest of the system with it, so no
> long uptimes here! (Not that they get anywhere near that long anyway, as
> I like running live git kernels from about rc2 onward, and thus git pull
> the kernel, compile and install the new version, and reboot to test it,
> quite regularly.)
>
>
I agree that Linux, as far as the basic system, is designed for long
uptimes. The GUI may not tho. I have went a week or two without
logging out but it was using a lot of memory especially since I was
working with images a lot.
My fix is to go single user, clear out processes that are dead, go back
to regular user level and log back in. It works well. May be worth a try.
Dale
:-) :-)
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On Tuesday 09 February 2010, Duncan wrote:
> Jerome Yuzyk posted on Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:08:44 -0700 as excerpted:
> > I am running KDE 3.5.10 on Fedora 8. Lately, I have been losing icons
> > here and there. Mostly web favicons in my Konquiror Bookmarks list and
> > toolbars, and they come back sometimes. But this evening the Kopete
> > icon in the System Tray is gone. Kopete is still there, but there's a
> > blank space. My system has been up over 400 days - could that be it?
> > Or symptom of a larger looming problem?
>
> That sounds like a slow xorg resource leak. You mention a 400 day
> uptime. Is KDE/X up for long periods or do you shut X down and return
> to the command prompt sometimes? That's what I'd do here, quit and
> restart X and kde. That way you don't lose your uptime since it's only
> X that you're quitting and restarting, not the entire system.
Yes I keep X/KDE running from boot to reboot, and I'm used to long uptimes
so maybe after all this time I'm hitting some X leakage or limitation.
Perhaps a sign I should restart X before it forces me to from hanging or
crashing. Thanks!
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