This is a religious discussion I know but I want to ask. I have been using
NetBeans, though not a lot with Grails, and I am thinking about starting my
new project in Eclipse instead. Before I do this though I would like to know
what the real differences between the two are, which is better, and why.
Please don't turn this into "IDE X sucks", those kinds of responses do
nothing except start flame wars.
Re: grails-user - IDE by Jean-Noël Rivasseau on
2009-06-23T21:18:23+00:00
I dont use Netbeans but for what I know about Grails / Groovy support:
IntelliJ is best
Netbeans is second
Eclipse is last
I use Eclipse myself, and I can say that the Groovy support is very poor.
Grails support is non existant basically.
Jean-Noel
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Dru Devore <ddevore@duckhouse.us> wrote:
> This is a religious discussion I know but I want to ask. I have been using
> NetBeans, though not a lot with Grails, and I am thinking about starting my
> new project in Eclipse instead. Before I do this though I would like to know
> what the real differences between the two are, which is better, and why.
>
> Please don't turn this into "IDE X sucks", those kinds of responses do
> nothing except start flame wars.
>
Re: grails-user - IDE by Brian Schlining on
2009-06-23T21:20:01+00:00
> This is a religious discussion I know but I want to ask. I have been using
> NetBeans, though not a lot with Grails, and I am thinking about starting my
> new project in Eclipse instead. Before I do this though I would like to know
> what the real differences between the two are, which is better, and why.
They are both incredible tools for the price. With that said, I tend not to
use Eclipse too much as I can never get it's plugins to work correctly as
they tend to stomp all over each other.
For serious Grails/Groovy development, you might want to consider shelling
out for Intellij IDEA.
Re: grails-user - IDE by Scott Burch on
2009-06-23T21:37:41+00:00
I am using NB 6.7RC3 right now. Has some good grails support. However,
the only thing that I am disappointed in is the gsp editing support.
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 14:19 -0700, Brian Schlining wrote:
>
> This is a religious discussion I know but I want to ask. I
> have been using NetBeans, though not a lot with Grails, and I
> am thinking about starting my new project in Eclipse instead.
> Before I do this though I would like to know what the real
> differences between the two are, which is better, and why.
>
>
> They are both incredible tools for the price. With that said, I tend
> not to use Eclipse too much as I can never get it's plugins to work
> correctly as they tend to stomp all over each other.
>
>
> For serious Grails/Groovy development, you might want to consider
> shelling out for Intellij IDEA.
>
>
Re: grails-user - IDE by Dean Del Ponte on
2009-06-23T22:09:26+00:00
If you're on a Mac, you may want to try TexMate as well. It's not a =20
full fledged IDE and lacks some of the nice features of NetBeans and =20
Eclipse (i.e. no debugging), but it doesn't require large amounts of =20
RAM to run.
If you want the best free alternative use NetBeans. Otherwise the =20
latest IDEA IntelliJ looks good (version 8.1.3).
- Dean
On Jun 23, 2009, at 4:14 PM, Jean-No=EBl Rivasseau wrote:
> I dont use Netbeans but for what I know about Grails / Groovy support:
>
> IntelliJ is best
> Netbeans is second
> Eclipse is last
>
> I use Eclipse myself, and I can say that the Groovy support is very =20=
> poor. Grails support is non existant basically.
>
> Jean-Noel
>
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Dru Devore <ddevore@duckhouse.us> =20=
> wrote:
> This is a religious discussion I know but I want to ask. I have been =20=
> using NetBeans, though not a lot with Grails, and I am thinking =20
> about starting my new project in Eclipse instead. Before I do this =20
> though I would like to know what the real differences between the =20
> two are, which is better, and why.
>
> Please don't turn this into "IDE X sucks", those kinds of responses =20=
> do nothing except start flame wars.
Re: grails-user - IDE by Juan J. Gil on
2009-06-24T01:14:37+00:00
I tried eclipse, netbeans, intellij and none of them has made it too well :(
Bests combos for me were gedit (with some plugins i don't remember, but
google is your friend :P) and vim.
vim (gvim actually) + nerdtree + fuzzyfinder + snippetsemu + xmledit +
nice font (consolas) + nice colorscheme (warm-grey) + console =
productive environment
the nice thing of developing in grails is that you actually can develop
very well without debugging, but with a lot of testing :).
for a really productive environment I would recommend you a powerfull
console environment, a productive (at your fingers) editor and a lot of
scripts (this blog http://naleid.com/blog has a lot of useful scripts :=) )
Dean Del Ponte escribió:
> If you're on a Mac, you may want to try TexMate as well. It's not a
> full fledged IDE and lacks some of the nice features of NetBeans and
> Eclipse (i.e. no debugging), but it doesn't require large amounts of
> RAM to run.
>
> If you want the best free alternative use NetBeans. Otherwise the
> latest IDEA IntelliJ looks good (version 8.1.3).
>
> - Dean
>
> On Jun 23, 2009, at 4:14 PM, Jean-Noël Rivasseau wrote:
>
>> I dont use Netbeans but for what I know about Grails / Groovy support:
>>
>> IntelliJ is best
>> Netbeans is second
>> Eclipse is last
>>
>> I use Eclipse myself, and I can say that the Groovy support is very
>> poor. Grails support is non existant basically.
>>
>> Jean-Noel
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Dru Devore <ddevore@duckhouse.us
>> <mailto:ddevore@duckhouse.us>> wrote:
>>
>> This is a religious discussion I know but I want to ask. I have
>> been using NetBeans, though not a lot with Grails, and I am
>> thinking about starting my new project in Eclipse instead. Before
>> I do this though I would like to know what the real differences
>> between the two are, which is better, and why.
>>
>> Please don't turn this into "IDE X sucks", those kinds of
>> responses do nothing except start flame wars.
>>
>
Re: grails-user - IDE by Antoine Roux on
2009-06-24T06:21:05+00:00
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
<meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type">
</head>
<body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
As it was said, currently Eclipse has a poor Groovy/Grails support. I
started developing with Grails under Eclipse and I switched to Netbeans
for this reason. I still prefer Eclipse, but not for Grails development.<br>
<br>
Springsource is working to give Groovy a good support in Eclipse, but
this should not happen before a few months.<br>
<br>
<br>
Antoine<br>
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Dru Devore a écrit :
<blockquote
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type="cite">This is a religious discussion I know but I want to ask. I
have been using NetBeans, though not a lot with Grails, and I am
thinking about starting my new project in Eclipse instead. Before I do
this though I would like to know what the real differences between the
two are, which is better, and why. <br>
<br>
Please don't turn this into "IDE X sucks", those kinds of responses do
nothing except start flame wars.<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
</body>
</html>
Re: grails-user - IDE by wohlgemuth on
2009-06-24T06:27:58+00:00
i really like intellyJ8 for grails development and if you have a
registered opensource project you can get a license for free.
The current eclipse plugin is sadly unusable.
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Antoine
Roux<antoine.roux@net-vitesse.com> wrote:
> As it was said, currently Eclipse has a poor Groovy/Grails support. I
> started developing with Grails under Eclipse and I switched to Netbeans f=
or
> this reason. I still prefer Eclipse, but not for Grails development.
>
> Springsource is working to give Groovy a good support in Eclipse, but thi=
s
> should not happen before a few months.
>
>
> Antoine
>
>
>
> Dru Devore a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
>
> This is a religious discussion I know but I want to ask. I have been usin=
g
> NetBeans, though not a lot with Grails, and I am thinking about starting =
my
> new project in Eclipse instead. Before I do this though I would like to k=
now
> what the real differences between the two are, which is better, and why.
>
> Please don't turn this into "IDE X sucks", those kinds of responses do
> nothing except start flame wars.
>
>
>
Re: grails-user - IDE by Sébastien Blanc on
2009-06-24T06:30:22+00:00
Is a grails plugin considered as an opensource project ? Do some of you
(plugin developpers) get a free license this way ? ('cause 300 euros is
still expensive ...)
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:27 AM, wohlgemuth <berlinguyinca@gmail.com> wrote=
:
> i really like intellyJ8 for grails development and if you have a
> registered opensource project you can get a license for free.
>
> The current eclipse plugin is sadly unusable.
>
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Antoine
> Roux<antoine.roux@net-vitesse.com> wrote:
> > As it was said, currently Eclipse has a poor Groovy/Grails support. I
> > started developing with Grails under Eclipse and I switched to Netbeans
> for
> > this reason. I still prefer Eclipse, but not for Grails development.
> >
> > Springsource is working to give Groovy a good support in Eclipse, but
> this
> > should not happen before a few months.
> >
> >
> > Antoine
> >
> >
> >
> > Dru Devore a =E9crit :
> >
> > This is a religious discussion I know but I want to ask. I have been
> using
> > NetBeans, though not a lot with Grails, and I am thinking about startin=
g
> my
> > new project in Eclipse instead. Before I do this though I would like to
> know
> > what the real differences between the two are, which is better, and why=
.
> >
> > Please don't turn this into "IDE X sucks", those kinds of responses do
> > nothing except start flame wars.
> >
> >
> > > > work:
> http://fiehnlab.ucdavis.edu/staff/wohlgemuth
>
>
Re: grails-user - IDE by Hubert Chang on
2009-06-24T06:38:05+00:00
If you use Linux, you can try gedit.
ddevore wrote:
>
> This is a religious discussion I know but I want to ask. I have been using
> NetBeans, though not a lot with Grails, and I am thinking about starting
> my
> new project in Eclipse instead. Before I do this though I would like to
> know
> what the real differences between the two are, which is better, and why.
>
> Please don't turn this into "IDE X sucks", those kinds of responses do
> nothing except start flame wars.
>
>
Re: grails-user - IDE by wohlgemuth on
2009-06-24T06:46:30+00:00
to be approved
it has to be:
- a compatible opensource license like LGPL
- public available (sourceforge, etc)
- mature
- used
I releases my project a year ago and it qualified without problems,
but it's a bigger project (200k lines+)
g.
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:29 PM, S=C3=A9bastien Blanc<sblanc@e-id.nl> wrot=
e:
> Is a grails plugin considered as an opensource project ? Do some of you
> (plugin developpers) get a free license this way ? ('cause 300 euros is
> still expensive ...)
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:27 AM, wohlgemuth <berlinguyinca@gmail.com> wro=
te:
>>
>> i really like intellyJ8 for grails development and if you have a
>> registered opensource project you can get a license for free.
>>
>> The current eclipse plugin is sadly unusable.
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Antoine
>> Roux<antoine.roux@net-vitesse.com> wrote:
>> > As it was said, currently Eclipse has a poor Groovy/Grails support. I
>> > started developing with Grails under Eclipse and I switched to Netbean=
s
>> > for
>> > this reason. I still prefer Eclipse, but not for Grails development.
>> >
>> > Springsource is working to give Groovy a good support in Eclipse, but
>> > this
>> > should not happen before a few months.
>> >
>> >
>> > Antoine
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Dru Devore a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
>> >
>> > This is a religious discussion I know but I want to ask. I have been
>> > using
>> > NetBeans, though not a lot with Grails, and I am thinking about starti=
ng
>> > my
>> > new project in Eclipse instead. Before I do this though I would like t=
o
>> > know
>> > what the real differences between the two are, which is better, and wh=
y.
>> >
>> > Please don't turn this into "IDE X sucks", those kinds of responses do
>> > nothing except start flame wars.
>> >
>> >
>> > >>
Re: grails-user - IDE by Aaron Eischeid on
2009-06-24T14:40:13+00:00
glad to see there is some love for gedit out there. i recently started usin=
g
snippets plugin in gedit, definitely a productivity boost there. I am
working on making custom snippets for groovy and grails that will be
available in the gedit-grails-bundle on github.
also I have heard rumors that there is now a windows port of gedit.
e-texteditor might be another option to look into if you are on windows,
very similar to text-mate from what I hear.
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:45 AM, wohlgemuth <berlinguyinca@gmail.com> wrote=
:
> to be approved
>
> it has to be:
>
> - a compatible opensource license like LGPL
> - public available (sourceforge, etc)
> - mature
> - used
>
> I releases my project a year ago and it qualified without problems,
> but it's a bigger project (200k lines+)
>
> g.
>
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:29 PM, S=E9bastien Blanc<sblanc@e-id.nl> wrote=
:
> > Is a grails plugin considered as an opensource project ? Do some of you
> > (plugin developpers) get a free license this way ? ('cause 300 euros is
> > still expensive ...)
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:27 AM, wohlgemuth <berlinguyinca@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> i really like intellyJ8 for grails development and if you have a
> >> registered opensource project you can get a license for free.
> >>
> >> The current eclipse plugin is sadly unusable.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Antoine
> >> Roux<antoine.roux@net-vitesse.com> wrote:
> >> > As it was said, currently Eclipse has a poor Groovy/Grails support. =
I
> >> > started developing with Grails under Eclipse and I switched to
> Netbeans
> >> > for
> >> > this reason. I still prefer Eclipse, but not for Grails development.
> >> >
> >> > Springsource is working to give Groovy a good support in Eclipse, bu=
t
> >> > this
> >> > should not happen before a few months.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Antoine
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Dru Devore a =E9crit :
> >> >
> >> > This is a religious discussion I know but I want to ask. I have been
> >> > using
> >> > NetBeans, though not a lot with Grails, and I am thinking about
> starting
> >> > my
> >> > new project in Eclipse instead. Before I do this though I would like
> to
> >> > know
> >> > what the real differences between the two are, which is better, and
> why.
> >> >
> >> > Please don't turn this into "IDE X sucks", those kinds of responses =
do
> >> > nothing except start flame wars.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > >>
> >> > >> work:
> >> http://fiehnlab.ucdavis.edu/staff/wohlgemuth
> >>
> >> > >
>
>
>
> > work:
> http://fiehnlab.ucdavis.edu/staff/wohlgemuth
>
>
Re: grails-user - IDE by Antony Jones on
2009-06-24T14:51:38+00:00
I too use a combination of gEdit and IntelliJ, but I don't have the sort
of money to blow on an intelliJ license. When my demo expires, I'm back
to gEdit.
Ant
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 09:39 -0500, Aaron Eischeid wrote:
> glad to see there is some love for gedit out there. i recently started
> using snippets plugin in gedit, definitely a productivity boost there.
> I am working on making custom snippets for groovy and grails that will
> be available in the gedit-grails-bundle on github.
>=20
> also I have heard rumors that there is now a windows port of gedit.
>=20
> e-texteditor might be another option to look into if you are on
> windows, very similar to text-mate from what I hear.
>=20
>=20
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:45 AM, wohlgemuth <berlinguyinca@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>=20
> to be approved
> =20
> it has to be:
> =20
> - a compatible opensource license like LGPL
> - public available (sourceforge, etc)
> - mature
> - used
> =20
> I releases my project a year ago and it qualified without
> problems,
> but it's a bigger project (200k lines+)
> =20
> g.
> =20
> =20
> =20
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:29 PM, S=C3=A9bastien
> Blanc<sblanc@e-id.nl> wrote:
> > Is a grails plugin considered as an opensource project ? Do
> some of you
> > (plugin developpers) get a free license this way ? ('cause
> 300 euros is
> > still expensive ...)
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:27 AM, wohlgemuth
> <berlinguyinca@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> i really like intellyJ8 for grails development and if you
> have a
> >> registered opensource project you can get a license for
> free.
> >>
> >> The current eclipse plugin is sadly unusable.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Antoine
> >> Roux<antoine.roux@net-vitesse.com> wrote:
> >> > As it was said, currently Eclipse has a poor
> Groovy/Grails support. I
> >> > started developing with Grails under Eclipse and I
> switched to Netbeans
> >> > for
> >> > this reason. I still prefer Eclipse, but not for Grails
> development.
> >> >
> >> > Springsource is working to give Groovy a good support in
> Eclipse, but
> >> > this
> >> > should not happen before a few months.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Antoine
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Dru Devore a =C3=A9crit :
> >> >
> >> > This is a religious discussion I know but I want to ask.
> I have been
> >> > using
> >> > NetBeans, though not a lot with Grails, and I am thinking
> about starting
> >> > my
> >> > new project in Eclipse instead. Before I do this though I
> would like to
> >> > know
> >> > what the real differences between the two are, which is
> better, and why.
> >> >
> >> > Please don't turn this into "IDE X sucks", those kinds of
> responses do
> >> > nothing except start flame wars.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> > >> > >>
> >> work:
> >> http://fiehnlab.ucdavis.edu/staff/wohlgemuth
> >>
> >>
> > >
> >
> =20
> =20
> =20
> =20
> =20
> > http://berlinguyinca.blogspot.com/
> =20
> work:
> http://fiehnlab.ucdavis.edu/staff/wohlgemuth
> =20
> > =20
>=20
>=20